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Post by Pete Webber on Dec 14, 2018 11:43:52 GMT
Hi
Many years ago Archive was producing a complete New Zealand register, but publication came to an end before the piece was completed, it was at the stage where the register was growing quicker than it could be published, it would never catch up.
A couple of questions....
Was the work complete at that time, with it just waiting for the next batch to be published in the next edition, and if so could it not now be released as a complete work in the Archive section of the web-site?
Obviously now there would be a gap between where it was then and now, but could be a good prompt for work to be picked up again?
Pete
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 15:59:25 GMT
Hi Pete and all members The historical New Zealand register ran in Archive for 84 instalments between 1981 and 2004, ending at ZK-DZZ which was apparently the planned end-point. The series concluded with the statement: At this point we reach the end of our planned coverage of the New Zealand register which has been running in Archive since 1981. A fitting ending perhaps with this large batch of locally-produced types. As outlined earlier, the rapid growth of the register itself, the re-use of marks and widespread use of special registrations all add to the difficulty of updating this feature. It is our intention to attempt a Complete Register as a separate publication - hopefully in the not-too-distant future, meanwhile any comments or additions to this or the previous 83 parts would be gratefully received! These are all available on Air-Britain CDs and there is no point in re-posting them here - in any case, Dave Partington reports that the originals are no longer available. There is a substantial quantity of historic material to be found on A-B member Dave Wise's site at www.flydw.org.uk/DWNZindex.htm If a full historical register were to be published at some point in the future I'm sure it would be of interest to many members. Robert Swan Archive editor
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Post by Pete Webber on Dec 14, 2018 21:53:23 GMT
Thanks Robert I could not remember how it was left, I have a full set on paper and CD and am compiling those into a single searchable file.
I am aware of the work by Dave but think he would acknowledge there is a huge difference between his registers and the archive work in terms of depth of data.
Luckily I downloaded a full set of the historic files from the NZCAA before they were removed a few years back.
I think such historical registers are one of the best services AB can do and hope we can see more.
Pete
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Post by geoffnegus on Dec 14, 2018 22:21:32 GMT
I've scanned nearly all editions of Aeromilitaria and Archive. I would need only a week or so to finish the job, once provided with the few editions I don't have (the most recent ones).
My spec was: - pages scanned individually on the glass (not using a sheet feeder) - black card inserted behind each page to reduce or (usually) eliminate print or images "bleaching" through the page - 360+ dpi - well above the standards recommended by TNA and the Library of Congess for archival scanning - centre-spreads scanned using an A3 scanner - colour pages scanned at 48-Bit, so they should print well, not only look good on screen - images and diagrams printed side-on rotated 90° so you don't have to lie on the floor to view them! - fully searchable.
Aeromilitaria = 5.4GB. Archive = 8.79GB.
I've mentioned this several times to the Air-Britain management, but they don't seem to be interested.
Any suggestions?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 15:31:37 GMT
Burn them onto a couple of DVDs each and sell them? If they are already scanned, then 90%+ of the work involved has been done already. Apart from a DVD burner, what would the outlay be? I'm sure there must be a market. And if they're scanned as you say, then the quality will be massively improved from a lot of what is on the CDs (which is, well, useable but a lot less than brilliant).
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Post by mpf on Dec 15, 2018 15:55:40 GMT
Some years back I compiled a fairly comprehensive PRE-WAR NZ Register, if anyone wants it to kick-start the full register.
Contact me on m.fillmore@athertonbailey.com
Malcolm Fillmore
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Post by delticman on Dec 18, 2018 4:19:56 GMT
Some years back I compiled a fairly comprehensive PRE-WAR NZ Register, if anyone wants it to kick-start the full register. Contact me on m.fillmore@athertonbailey.com Malcolm Fillmore
Better still, join the Aviation Historical Society of New Zealand. The pre war register has been covered in more detail than I've ever seen before with many photos.
Ray Deerness
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Post by supermanc2008 on Dec 18, 2018 11:11:06 GMT
Hi
I have not seen a response from Management to Geoff's offer. As Phil says most of the work has been done.
Could somebody please say why there seems to be a complete lack of interest in producing these as CD/DVD's.
John Taylor
PS Quite a while back I asked about the forum not being secure, it still says not secure on the address bar.
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Post by geoffnegus on Dec 18, 2018 20:46:20 GMT
Thanks to Phil and John for their interest.
Of course, the fruits of my labours don't have to be on CD or DVD. Or, for that matter, on a USB stick.
They could be displayed in the A-B Membership Area ... for free!
(Rationale: A senior member repeatedly points out that most computers currently on sale do not have CD/DVD drives. Correct. But many people have remote drives, which are inexpensive, often in order to watch movies on different devices in their homes. USB sticks might be an alternative. If the management feels that publishing on either media might entail risk or loss, then surely it could make the files available via the Membership Area website? Any argument that members might then share the material with non-members wouldn't wash with me. As a charity, Air-Britain has an obligation to act in the public interest, not only that of its members.)
I simply want people to be able to use these files, sooner rather than later!
Regards Geoffrey Negus
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Post by Pete Webber on Dec 19, 2018 7:41:30 GMT
I agree, old material that was originally paid for by subscriptions, and sold again since on CD, should be made available for free by a charity who have the aim of promoting research and education.
Pete
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 12:58:02 GMT
I'm quite happy to send you a blank USB stick, Geoff. Then for testing purposes only of course, prior to AB making a decision on whether to do anything with the info, you could check to see how long it would take to copy the fruits of your labours onto this type of media...
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Post by geoffnegus on Jan 16, 2019 20:10:08 GMT
Transferring all the Aeromilitaria and Archive files on to a USB stick takes about 30 minutes. But it needs to be borne in mind that using physical media like sticks or disks also involves postage, secure packing and additional time.
I would much prefer Air-Britain to post them in the Membership Area.
A rather less attractive alternative might be to use WeTransfer.com to email them to people requesting them.
I plan to raise this at the February Book Production Committee, in the hope of getting a final decision.
Geoff
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Post by Pete Webber on Jan 17, 2019 8:43:17 GMT
Geoff
are these straight scans as is of each edition, or sorted into small 'books' by theme of article?
Pete
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Post by geoffnegus on Jan 17, 2019 13:23:10 GMT
Pete
One file per year.
Geoff
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Post by Pete Webber on Jan 17, 2019 15:06:23 GMT
Thanks Geoff, I have been doing it the other way from the original scans on the CD's, forming all the parts of the DH60 file into one pdf for example, given any source file quite easy to do. The later editions that have not come out on CD (yet?) I will have to scan.
Pete
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