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Post by stan on Dec 31, 2018 8:39:27 GMT
I'm back in the AB family after a few years in the wilderness and wondered if anyone may be able to help with a question that’s been puzzling me for a while. Although I’m fairly good with military aviation I’m pretty but useless on civil so please forgive me if there's a really obvious answer/resource for this. I’ve tried other forums without success and my google skills have found no results. AB gurus, you’re my last remaining hope.
I have a newspaper clipping dated September 15 1967, relating to a Pan Am Clipper fire at Frankfurt on 'September 9', I'm assuming it relates to the same year. I'd like to identify the aircraft involved.
Extracts from a long article:
'A Pan American World Airways flight crew required only two minutes to evacuate a Jet Clipper shortly before it was scheduled to take of for Chicago. The swift action was completed before fire apparatus arrived to extinguish a blaze which broke out on the aircraft here on September 9, at 4:30pm.
The aircraft carried 164 passengers who were bound for Chicago on a charter flight. None of the passengers was seriously injured, although first aid treatment was given to 18 of the travellers......
.....The blaze was first signalled when a warning light went on in the cockpit, as the Clipper was poised for the takeoff roll. At the same moment a 'sharp report' was heard in the cockpit Capt. (Tom) Decker recalled. Stewardess Marje Aus, stationed in the rear of the aircraft said she thought that a tire had blown....
..First Officer (Thomas) MacLean reported seeing flames- caused by a compressor failure, it was determined-coming from the number three engine. Some of the passengers at the rear of the aircraft also saw the flames. One of them shouted a warning and the crew in that section sprang into action..."
Any information or leads would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
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Post by terrysmith on Dec 31, 2018 14:03:23 GMT
Welcome back Stan.
A site called the Aviation Safety Network is an excellent source for airliner acciident data. I have searched it both by the airline - PanAm - and the airport and can find nothing that matches the event you are looking for. I find this very surprising.
Terry Smith
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Post by colinadcock on Dec 31, 2018 17:29:04 GMT
Hi Stan,
NTSB site has as below
All thebest to all for 2019
Colin
NTSB Identification: DCA68R0001
14 CFR Part 121 Nonscheduled operation of PAN AMERICAN WORLD AWYS INC.
Aircraft: BOEING 707, registration: N724PA
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FILE DATE LOCATION AIRCRAFT DATA INJURIES FLIGHT PILOT DATA
F S M/N PURPOSE
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1-0068 67/9/9 FRANKFURT,GERMANY BOEING 707 CR- 0 0 10 NS/CTR REVENUE PASSG INTL CERTIFICATE UNKNOWN, AGE
TIME - 1343 N724PA PX- 0 2162 UNK/NR, UNK/NR TOTAL
DAMAGE-SUBSTANTIAL OT- 0 0 0 HOURS, UNK/NR IN TYPE,
UNK/NR INSTRUMENT RATED.
NAME OF AIRPORT - FRANKFURT
OPERATOR - PAN AMERICAN WORLD AIRWAYS,INC.
TYPE OF ACCIDENT PHASE OF OPERATION
ENGINE FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION TAKEOFF: RUN
FIRE OR EXPLOSION: ON GROUND TAKEOFF: RUN
REMARKS- INVESTIGATION UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE GOVT OF WEST GERMANY.
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Post by stan on Dec 31, 2018 18:03:29 GMT
Colin, Thank you very much. You’ve no idea how hard I’ve searched for that info. Happy New Year!
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Post by stan on Dec 31, 2018 18:06:59 GMT
Seems to be an interesting reg (taken from airline reporter.com)
A while back after I blogged a photo of a Pan Am Boeing 747-200 taking off at Seattle, an ex-pilot that flew for Pan Am emailed me and thought the registration number had to be wrong. He remembered quite clearly that N724PA was not for a 747, but it belonged to a Boeing 707-300 that flew for Pan Am. This was curious for me, since when I looked up photos of aircraft belonging to N724PA there was a photo of a Boeing 707 in Alaska Airlines livery. It is common for airlines to re-use registration numbers, but I felt a story involving a Pan Am Boeing 747 and 707 used by Alaska needed to be told.
It turns out he was right. N724PA a Boeing 707-300, which Pan Am called “Clipper Mercury,” went into service on December 8, 1959 and served Pan Am well, until 1971. Mercury was leased to GE, then Donaldson International Airways until being leased to Alaska Airlines for the summer of 1972. After Alaska’s lease was up it went back to Donaldson and the registration number was changed from N724PA to G-BAEL.
When Mercury’s registration number was changed, it allowed Pan Am to “re-use” the number and register a new aircraft. When Pan Am got a Boeing 747-200 in 1984 from Sinapore Airlines, they gave her the name “Clipper Fairwind” and the registration number N724PA, which previously belonged to the Boeing 707.
I can’t find where the Boeing 747 ended up, but based photos taken in 2005, I am guessing she is no longer flying (can anyone else confirm that?).
So, that explains the confusion of the registration numbers, but left me wondering why the heck Alaska was flying a Boeing 707 for only one summer. For that answer you will have to wait until tomorrow!
And a fairly long lived 707 too: (planelogger.com)
Registration Details For G-BAEL (Malaysia Airlines) 707-321
Serial 17602
Line Number 83
First Flight 23.11.59
Model 707-321
Status Left Fleet
Comments ret 13.11.76
Registration History
Reg Airline Delivered Status
Not Seen It N724PA Pan American World Airways (Pan Am) 08.12.59 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N724PA JAT Yugoslav Airlines 31.05.71 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N724PA G.E.Bodell 13.11.71 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N724PA Donaldson International 22.03.72 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N724PA Alaska Airlines 25.03.72 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL Donaldson International 16.10.72 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL British Midland Airways 08.75 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL Syrian Arab Airlines 29.10.75 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL PIA Pakistan International Airlines 01.76 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL Syrian Arab Airlines 09.02.76 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL Tunisair 02.76 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL Malaysia Airlines 20.08.76 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL British Midland Airways 13/11/1976 Left Fleet
Not Seen It G-BAEL Kenya Airways 30.06.77 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N2276X Int Air Leases 11.06.78 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N2276X AeronDelPeru 08.78 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N2276X Faucett Peru 22.08.78 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N2276X Seagreen Airlines 06.09.78 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N2276X TAMPA 27.12.79 Left Fleet
Not Seen It HK-2477 TAMPA 07.80 Left Fleet
Not Seen It N2276X Int Air Leases 01.81 Left Fleet
Not Seen It 9Q-CZK InterFret 10.01.83 Left Fleet
Not Seen It 9Q-CZK Air Region 12.85 Left Fleet
Not Seen It 9Q-CZK National Air Freight 01.89 Re-Regd
Not Seen It 9Q-CGO National Air Freight 09.89 Left Fleet
Not Seen It 9Q-CGO Air Charter Service (ACS) 04.90 Left Fleet
Not Seen It 9Q-CJW Air Charter Service (ACS) 1991 Scrapped
Thanks again
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Post by colinadcock on Jan 1, 2019 10:05:30 GMT
Stan,
Below is a brief history of 747-200 21316
9V-SQF Singapore Airlines
27 Jun 1977
N747BJ Boeing
5 Jul 1984
N724PA Pan American World Airways (Pan Am)
31 Aug 1984
N724PA United Airlines
30 Nov 1990
N724PA Pan American World Airways (Pan Am)
1 May 1991 •
N724PA United Airlines
20 Sep 1991 •
N724PA Tower Air
15 Dec 1992
C-FXCE Fortunair
24 Jun 1994
N504DC Potomac Capital Investment Corporation Mar 1995
TF-ABZ Saudi Arabian Airlines
Apr 1995
TF-ABZ Air Atlanta Icelandic
7 Sep 1995
N504DC WTC - Wilmington Trust Company Dec 1995
N619FF Tower Air
22 Jan 1996
N619FF Saudi Arabian Airlines
Mar 1996 •
N619FF Tower Air
Aug 1996 •
SE-RBH Transjet Airways
17 Dec 2001
3D-NEF Northeast Airlines
12 Jan 2004
XT-DMK Kallat El-Saker Air Company
Mar 2007
Cheers Colin
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Post by stan on Jan 1, 2019 17:44:04 GMT
Thanks Colin, much appreciated
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