Just received the latest AvWorld and very pleased to see that my COSMIC WIND article finally appeared. However, despite searching under logical headings via the Members Portal, where do the full individual histories actually appear as promised in the article ?!
A couple of comments from me, both relating to the feedback on Page 141. Regarding Rhodesia, surely the Tiger Moths SR18 and SR19 mentioned actually went to Syria! Perhaps Malcolm Fillmore could confirm this? I'm also having trouble with the revised Beech mentor list, particularly G-696 to G-845 (USAF). As a lot of you will know, I am very fond of physical checks of c/n plates. Checks of aircraft in the 55-0140 to 55-0289 block favour them being c/ns G-697 to G-846 as stated in the original article. Regards, Andy
Now that the full version of my COSMIC WIND article is available to all to accompany the truncated version in the Summer AvWorld, it is important that members should provide Feedback to the AvWorld Editor on the revised content policy.
Members at large will not be aware of the many hoops and hurdles that I have had to go through or jump simply to get the article published ! In summary, shortly after submitting it to Rod Simpson, I was somewhat taken aback to receive his email on 26th February, which included inter alia “I'm not quite sure how to put this, but it was not exactly what I had expected - and I think the latter part seems more of a research file than an article. ....... it is now the policy to post this very deep research on the website...... We would then tell readers that the fully detailed histories are on the website. I think this would result in a feature closer to the style we are establishing for Aviation World”
Having produced very detailed articles for many years (particularly individual UK-regd aircraft histories in ABN) I produced a very short paper for our Board of Trustees to consider on the principles of this approach which was tabled on 09th March. The Chairman kindly confirmed the outcome on the same day, saying “ This matter and your paper were fully discussed at the Trust Board Meeting earlier today. There was a lengthy discussion which encompassed not only the content and structure of AvWorld but also the Board's policy on dissemination of information both to Members and the general public at large. That policy is that detailed data should increasingly be focussed and made available on the Air-Britain website and that articles in AvWorld should be complete in themselves, but also edited so as to appeal to the more general reader member”
Given Rod’s slight lack of confidence “I will attempt to use my computer expertise (!!!) to insert pictures into the pdf which I upload to the website. It should be possible - but don't hold your breath” I personally produced the pdf for the A-B webpages now as at www.ab-ix.co.uk/pdfs/the_cosmic_wind.pdf.
I am also repeating this message on AB-IX so that those not yet part of the Forum can also be aware of the publishing policy and can express their views to the AvWorld Editor for summary in the next AvWorld feedback. If I overlooked the mention of this publishing policy in the May Newsletter, I apologise.
It is not my intention that there should be any more debate here or on AB-IX, but I do think that it is important that ALL should be aware of the AvWorld/Webpages content policy, which will affect their contributions for future articles, of which I (and Rod) hope that there will be many !
Post by supermanc2008 on Jul 20, 2019 16:22:11 GMT
I am a bit behind with my mails and have just read the above by Bernard Martin.
I must say I am rather concerned with the way Air-Britain is going. It just seems there is a complete mish-mash now of how Air-Britain is disseminating its information. Its becoming difficult where to look for the information.
1) A-B Monographs - this is self explanatory, although why you cannot copy from the accompanying CD's is beyond me, as you could scan the book if you were that desperate.
2) A-B Magazines a) ABN : I must say this has improved over the last few years, especially in layout, but there is a marked Civil bias. b) New Av World : This is NOT a replacement for Aeromilitaria or Archive. The magazine is a very good read but as Bernard says above is being aimed at the general reader. Just look at the pictures of of these 2 magazines in the Members Area to see what has been lost (Thank you to Robert Swan for the registers at least, and Terry Hancock for the series of accident lists, but these were not in Aeromil before.) Why we have so many pages of photos of current aircraft in AV World I don't know. Surely these could be on ABpic.
3) Online : This is where the real mess starts, ABpic : This has improved a lot since the it was re-vamped. We have ab-ix and the forum, but there seems to an overlapping of the 2 developing. In fact there seems to be fewer post on ab-ix as the forum has taken off. Web site : We have the Members area and Researchers corner, I wonder how many members and non-members look at these sites. We are told that so many things will be put on the website, but when ?. Will it be in my lifetime. You have to look at so many different areas to try to find something and find its not there. When will Malcolm Fillmore's Tiger histories see the light of day. Geoffrey Negus scanned the full list of both Archive and Aeromilitaria, the last I heard was they could be put on the website, again when ?
One reply will be we cannot find the volunteers, if that's the case could not A-B actually pay for some outside help, and also to try and find a replacement for Yahoo.
Well that's enough of me being a grouchy old sod (at least that's what my wife sometime says). I'm glad I'm a member of A-B, and wish I had remained so from when I first joined in 1958. Much of what A-B produces is very very good, but the digital side could do with some improvement.
On the points you raise - Copying CD - This infringes copyright and is illegal.
- ABN - the civil bias - Sue and the team can only work with what they get, if nobody sends in military material we cannot have a balanced magazine. Also the volume of current military activity is dropping as air arms downsize, so I think there is some inevitability with this decline too.
- Aviation World - As has already been stated the volume of freshly written material we were getting for Aeromilitairia was declining rapidly, many of the tabular features were coming to an end the format was getting tired and and we had no editor. To a lesser extent there were signs of a similar trend for Archive. Costs were also rising and the subscribers falling (at about 5% pa). We also had feedback from members that that our then plethora of subscription combinations was complex and needed simplifying. As your elected Board we had to take some hard decisions.
- On-Line - As we has previously been stated we are working on addressing many of the challenges, including Yahoo, ABIX etc. We have a complex set of on-line systems, that have been developed in an adhoc way over a number of years. Much of our current activities are going on behind the scenes up grade existing software and keep pace with growth and technology change e.g. for on-line purchasing application and server upgrades. We are NOT sitting on our hands! We have agreed a new simplified on-line architecture and are now looking at the cost of change, finding someone affordable and suitable to carry out the work. This is not an overnight task. Hopefully you will see some progress soon.
We will get there but as you rightly note we have too few people with the right skills to do what we need to do. Please stick with us and things will get done.
Hi Phil, At the risk of becoming boring, much of what you say is what I was asking for 2 or 3 years back. YES, I understand it will cost using an outside organisation. Better the money is spent on dragging a-b forward than collecting old books/ dead folks records & spending valuable cash on storing them. Almost no member gets to see this stuff. Anyway enough. What I would like is the website to recognise me - the site I am on right now requires me to log in each time - that is medieval. Thanks for your efforts trying to progress things. ian