My notes (and a lot of others) say that XX557 was lost on 12 September 1975, not the 11th. Doesn't necessarily mean I'm right though. Can someone else please confirm? The wreck of XX662 was still extant at Prestwick on 19 August 1987. The caption ot the photo of M25-08 on page 100 is incorrect. M25-08 is ex FM1230, as correctly stated in the production list.
This was the thread that started with message 186743 in AB-IX
All I have received my copy of Tom Wenham's book on the above and at first glance this looks like a terrific reference on this fine aircraft. I have an interest in the Malaysian aircraft and have long sought absolute clarification of the tie ups between the original FM and newer M25 serials. All seems well with the first eleven aircraft, but I see a problem with FM1231-1234 (160, 168, 169 and 177). On page 97 of the book there is a type index which quotes these aircraft as becoming M25-09 to 12, however, when one studies the individual aircraft histories we have a problem. C/n 160 is noted as reported as M25-09 then noted as remaining marked as FM1231, and 168,169,177 are noted as being M25-09,10,11 so no M25-12. I suspect the individual histories as quoted are correct but would welcome any feedback. Regards AD
Alistair I agree! And I was the one putting the production histories together. So would equally welcome further feedback and any valid corrections. Malcolm Fillmore
Gents, The crux of this problem revolves around c/n 160, now marked as FM1231. If this was never re-serialled (it would have been M25-09), then the last three would presumably have become M25-09/10/11 in order (there are no known instances of TUDM re-serialling being out of order). One easy way of solving is it to acquire a sighting (or photo) of a Bulldog marked M25-12. Anyone? Andy M
Aberdeen Press and Journal - Friday 12 September 1975: An RAF officer and his fire-officer passenger stepped to safety from a wrecked light aircraft yesterday after a routine training flight went wrong over Perthshire. The two men were taken to Stirling Hospital late yesterday afternoon after the plane crash-landed into woodland between Thornhill and Callander. Both left later after treatment for cuts and bruises. The plane - a Scottish Aviation Bulldog trainer belonging to Glasgow University Air Squadron - was extensively damaged. Last night an RAF spokesman — who identified the occupants as Flight-Lieut R. Duckenfield, the pilot; and Station Officer W. Turnbull — said that a board of inquiry would be convened today to investigate the crash. The RAF spokesman said the fire officer had been aboard the aircraft to take part in an air observation exercise. . .