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Post by andym on Nov 26, 2020 11:46:13 GMT
Most sources I can find say that the loss of Mosquito LR431 was actually on 18.7.44
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Post by andym on Nov 26, 2020 11:58:30 GMT
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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Nov 26, 2020 15:14:39 GMT
Most sources I can find say that the loss of Mosquito LR431 was actually on 18.7.44 Andy These Mosquito (and Spitfire) recce squadrons (540 to 544) are interesting. To whom did they belong? Checking my book sources, it was not to any of the traditional ones, ie Bomber, Coastal and Fighter Commands. Neither did they come under 2nd TAF or ADGB Had they some special status and reported straight to RAF HQ or something? With regard to this Mosquito loss I have no other sources at home to consult (I haven't checked the 'net yet) but can you please advise what sources you have consulted and since you use the word 'most', which sources actually state something else than the 18th? Cheers Stig |
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Post by supermanc2008 on Nov 26, 2020 16:05:56 GMT
Hello Stig
Looking on various sites online, it appears they were part of 16 Group, Coastal Command during WW2
Cheers
John Taylor (02803)
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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Nov 26, 2020 16:52:57 GMT
Hello Stig Looking on various sites online, it appears they were part of 16 Group, Coastal Command during WW2 Cheers John Taylor (02803) Thanks John I checked my books again and sure enough I now located these units within Coastal Command after all. At the time of the loss, it seems they had all been transferred to No 106 Wing (one source actually says No 106 Group) Re-reading one book (not much actually said about PR-work in the first place), am I correct to interpret the situation that it was Coastal Command which was responsible for all PR-work out of England and that the other Commands had to request all their data from/through them? Cheers Stig |
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Post by andym on Nov 27, 2020 9:40:40 GMT
Most sources I can find say that the loss of Mosquito LR431 was actually on 18.7.44 With regard to this Mosquito loss I have no other sources at home to consult (I haven't checked the 'net yet) but can you please advise what sources you have consulted and since you use the word 'most', which sources actually state something else than the 18th? Stig, The loss is confirmed as the 18th July in the 544 Sqn ORB: AIR 27/2028/44 Took off 0900, Failed To Return. I suspect a typo (17th) in the Air Britain serials books has led to other incorrect entries, eg Andy
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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Nov 27, 2020 9:50:26 GMT
That sounds very reasonable Andy.... (and thanks!)  There is more than one site out there who is copying our books Cheers Stig |
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Post by supermanc2008 on Nov 27, 2020 11:33:35 GMT
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Post by andym on Feb 16, 2021 19:38:43 GMT
Wellington X LN870 is listed as being DBR in an accident, 30.6.44.
In fact, it was shot down on the night of 11/12 June whilst on a raid to Karlovo, Bulgaria. Some background on this.
I downloaded the Summary and Record of events for 70 Sqn in June 1944 (AIR-27-617-11 and AIR-27-617-12).
The summary records that 8 aircraft of the squadron were on the mission to Karlovo (mis-spelled as Karlova) of which two (L and E) returned early and one (U) was missing. The remaining five claimed to have bombed the target.
I then looked at the record of events, to find eight aircraft listed:
L MF421 (returned early)
E MF138 (returned early)
Z JA508
K LN985
H LP267 - this is listed twice, with its crew details, once at the bottom of one page, and once again at the top of the next
X JA520
W LP228
C LN699
As can be seen, there is absolutely no mention of an aircraft being lost in the record of events! I can only assume that whoever was typing the document mistakenly listed H LP267 twice, whilst omitting aircraft U. Aircraft U itself last appears in the ORB on the previous night, when the serial is confirmed as LN870.
So there appears to be a mistake in the summary (9 squadron aircraft went on the mission) and a mistake in the record (the lost aircraft is not mentioned at all).
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Post by andym on Nov 20, 2021 13:47:50 GMT
Lancaster LM227 served with 576 Sqn (not 476 Sqn which is a typo).
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Post by andym on Jun 3, 2022 14:21:57 GMT
Mosquito LR503 is shown as 109/105/Canada SOC 10.5.45 in Canada It crashed at Calgary on that date after striking an obstacle during a low-level beat-up of the airfield. Both crew were killed. The aircraft, which had the highest total of operational sorties of any Mosquito (213, so of any bomber?!), was in Canada as part of a Victory Loan bond drive. It was a 105 Sqn aircraft, with a 105 Sqn crew. Code was GB-F (Bar) The record card: lancasterbombersinfo.ipage.com/Data/Form-78s/Mosquito/LR496-LR585/0.htmlsays "on loan from 8 Group - on special Victory Tour of Canada" Lots about this in "Mosquito Thunder - 105 Squadron RAF At War 1942-1945" (Stuart Scott, Sutton) |
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Post by andym on Jun 7, 2022 15:04:55 GMT
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Post by andym on Sept 4, 2022 10:20:58 GMT
The loss of Wellington LN295 in the mid-air collision with X3924 took place on 6.11.43, as per CWGC.
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Post by andym on Mar 5, 2023 19:23:48 GMT
Lancaster LM548 of 463 Sqn was lost in 1945, not 1944 as listed.
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Post by andym on Dec 18, 2023 13:06:09 GMT
Beaufighter LX802 is shown as 304 FTU/Med, Missing 2.9.43 According to "Under Their Own Flag", this was lost with 47 Sqn, coded D. Crew was Capt James Russell HASTINGS SAAF and F/S Francis Peter HILL, both of whom were killed. The ORB confirms code D, but no serial is shown.
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