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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Sept 14, 2021 19:42:51 GMT
Sorry Andy
Didn't notice that. Are you saying you have an combined issue covering both the T and V serials? I have T as a single issue and a combined V and W. Very confusing....
Anyway, I have made another date mistake. Yes, T4765 was shot down during the Vågsöy raid 27 Dec
It is actually the other one T4825 I wonder about A recent post about Operation Archery on 27 Dec 1941 stated both these two Beaus were shot down during the raid on 27 Dec. Ross McNeill (Coastal Command Losses Vol 1 1939-41) also give the loss of T4825 as 27 Dec
If your initial post is correct, T4825 was lost also on a raid at Vågsöy, but 27 Aug 1941 McNeill has no losses in/around Norway on 27 Aug. So which was the second Beau lost on 27 Dec??
Cheers Stig
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Post by andym on Sept 15, 2021 10:19:53 GMT
Stig, Sorry, you've lost me. I have only ever mentioned 27 Dec 1941 in relation to the losses of T4765 and T4825. Where does your reference to August come from? Andy
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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Sept 15, 2021 10:48:55 GMT
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Post by geoffnegus on Sept 15, 2021 11:01:28 GMT
Use TNA File Descriptions with caution - there are errors amongst them. T4825 was definitely lost on 27.12.41. The crew's CWGC entries confirm that. T4825 wasn't constructed until September and joined 236Sqn on 13.10.41. Geoffrey Negus
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Post by andym on Oct 9, 2021 13:28:28 GMT
Hurricane V7345 is listed as 208, Missing 19.3.41 TNA confirms the loss, but states it was a 6 Sqn loss: discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C16689574The 6 Sqn summary of events also confirms that "F/O J C WILSON was shot down while carrying out a tactical reconnaissance over enenmy postions west of AGHEILA and was made prisoner of war", although it lists the date as 17.3.41 (it was compiled later and many records were lost). I can only assume that record of the transfer of V7345 from 208 Sqn to 6 Sqn was also lost.
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Post by andym on Oct 13, 2021 15:59:37 GMT
Whitley T4167 is listed as 78 Sqn, damaged in air raid at Luqa, and SOC 20.2.41. However, everything I can find indicates that it was lost on the night of 10/11.2.41 whilst taking part in Operation Colossus, the dropping of parachutists on the Tragino Aqueduct. The crew were taken POW. Further info including crew details can be found at: www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?19917-Operation-Colossus-10-2-1941/The loss is also confirmed in the 78 Squadron history "Nobody Unprepared" by Vernon Holland. Background information on the operation is at: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_ColossusIt would be interesting to know where the idea that it was damaged in an air raid at Luqa originated. Maybe this raid damaged another aircraft?
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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Oct 13, 2021 18:18:19 GMT
First a belated thanks to Geoff
Oddly enough I never received the usual reminder via Air Britain. Sorry about that. Looking forward to your Beaufighter book btw Geoff!
Andy With regard to Hurricane V7345 MAW 1 also says 6 Sq and loss date 17 March 1941. The book does not state any RAF s/n but I have added V7345 later. Have you possibly aired this topic on TOCH?
The Whitley T4167 is odd indeed. As far as I can see there was no air raid on Malta on the 20th. A few Bf 109s made overflights at high altitude, but no strafing or anything like that. Possibly the date is its SOC date? Looking into RAF Bomber losses in the Middle East and Med Vol 1, it also says it was lost on the 10th!
Cheers Stig
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Post by andym on Jun 16, 2022 14:20:52 GMT
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Post by andym on Aug 9, 2022 17:19:34 GMT
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Post by Stig Jarlevik on Aug 9, 2022 18:02:33 GMT
Some further details can be found in Clipped Wings Vol 1 by Colin Cummings
B Rgds Stig
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Post by andym on Aug 30, 2022 17:25:43 GMT
Hurricane V6569/WX-K of 302 Sqn was shot down on 15 Sep 40 (P/O Lapka baled out and survived). The book just records it being SOC on 15 Nov 40
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Post by andym on Sept 17, 2022 9:59:54 GMT
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Post by andym on Jan 9, 2023 10:40:52 GMT
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Post by andym on Mar 6, 2023 12:19:10 GMT
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Post by andym on Apr 24, 2023 10:14:28 GMT
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